Another day, another phone scam - this one from Nerd-i about my 'faulty' PC

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Today I had a second phone call from someone telling me that my computer was faulty. The first time I got this call, a couple of weeks ago, I must have sounded suspicious because they put the phone down on me.

This time I decided to play naive and let them take me through the spiel. The caller told me that he 'knew' that my computer had more than 1000 faults and that it might crash at any time. He rather spoilt his line by then asking if I had a computer, but I ignored that and battled on. He said he would show me the problems.

First he told me to go to Start and click on Run, then enter eventvwr. This launches the Event Viewer and is a perfectly safe thing to do. I was then to click on Applications and notice how many errors there were.

As it happens this did alert me to a problem with my backup service, but I didn't tell him that. Apart from that there were in fact very few errors, but even if there had been more I imagine they would have been perfectly normal events.

Next came the dodgy bit. I was instructed to go to Run again then key in a web address. This is highly dangerous and no-one should do it. I wrote down the web address he gave me (but I will not share it with you) and asked him what would happen if I typed it in. He said it would allow me to access some remote software which would fix the problem.

Aha!! I explained that I would take some advice before going to a strange website because I was afraid of downloading viruses - I didn't tell him that I was more concerned about downloading spyware that might access my personal data. Not surprisingly he assured me that there wouldn't be any viruses.

I still said that I would not go to a strange website so he tried another tactic. This time I was to Run and enter msconfig. Once again, this is perfectly safe and launches the System Configuration Utility. Now I wouldn't advise anyone to make any changes to this utility unless they know what they are doing, but no harm can come from looking at it.

I was told to click on the Services tab and then look at how many applications were logged as 'stopped'. He told me that these were all applications that were needed by the computer and without them the PC would crash.

Total nonsense, of course. Applications which are stopped are just that - applications that have been running and are no longer needed.

At that point I had heard enough, so I asked him the name of his company, which he spelt out for me: Nerd-i. I repeated my story about not going to unknown websites and said goodbye.

Then I started googling. Nerd-i also crops up as Nerd Support Services and The Nerd Support, with plenty of complaints about its methods. Here is one warning from PCPro: Pensioner targeted by fake virus phone scam. It seems that they charge £185 for providing a so-called solution to the non-existent problem, presumably through a simple process of clearing out the error logs.

Unlike other scams I have dealt with there does seem to be a legitimate company called Nerd-i, with a comprehensive website. It is registered at Companies House with an address in London. The Nerd-i website has the appearance of a professional company and offers a range of internet security services.

I was wondering if someone was using their brand illicitly. So I phoned the number given on the website and asked the woman who replied whether she was aware of the techniques being used. At first she agreed that the phone call had come from them. When I explained that I was an IT professional and knew that they were using unfounded scare tactics she said that it 'wasn't her department' and that she would try to trace the person who called me to have words with him. I then told her that I would be reporting them to the police.

Have you received a phone call like mine? Do you know anyone who has fallen for the scam?

Update

I phoned the new Met 101 helpline, and explained what had happened. They tried to put me through to the Intelligence section at Kingston Police Station but the call transfer failed, and the 101 line was then busy.

But before that happened they did advise me to get in touch with Trading Standards. So I called Trading Standards on 08454 04 05 06 which goes straight to Consumer Direct, and told them my story. They thought I should report it to Action Fraud, the Government counter fraud organisation.

I called Action Fraud and after some explanation I was asked to submit a crime report and was given a crime number.

By that time I had noticed that Nerd-i had only been registered at Companies House two months ago, which would explain the change of name.

If you want to report something similar I would suggest you go straight to Action Fraud or call them on 0300 123 2040.

Comments

Hello,

I have received several calls from this bogus company who refuse to leave me alone. I have literally just ended the call. The person on the phone was extremely suspicious and couldn't coherently explain what his company is or what they do. He just kept telling me to turn on my computer again and again. I kept pressing him for answers about how he knows all this information about my computer and it got him into such a state, he confused himself!! I promptly ended my phone call saying that I do not wish to hear from him and his bogus company again and if I do, I shall be calling the police. I'm no computer expert but you could tell this was a scam and I just hope that no one gets sucked into these scams.

Apparently there are some very similar scams using different company names, and it seems they are all connected.

In fact, the local police have been warning against one from Invincible PC Care.

Also the Guardian ran this piece back in March: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2011/mar/01/microsoft-virus-sc...

My advice still stands - call Action Fraud.

Report this scammers to callercenter.com! that's what I do everytime I get one...

Thanks - but I think that site is for the USA only

I have been called several times by this "company" despite being registered with the Telephone Preference Service (TPS). I work with computers, so spotted them as being suspect straight away. They are absolutely a scam and I urge anyone not to give them any details or follow any instructions they may give you. Your computer is fine. They will try to scare you by telling you there is a problem with your computer. Then they will try get you to allow them access to your computer remotely, which is akin to giving a stranger your house keys.
There are also reports of them adding viruses and spyware to computers once they have access, presumably to keep them in a job.

Got a cold call from 'John Smith' (nice Indian Name considering the thickness of his Indian accent combined with the a tang of call centre trained American), calling from the London (yeah, right) offices of NERDI. He advised me that he is a registered Microsoft Technician and that they have had confirmation of over 3000 virus/errors on my PC. Now, I know this is a scam, no one cold calls you to offer assistance with you 'Problem' PC, so I tagged along. What i need to do is turn on my computer, open the windows start menu (which he explained to me like a 4 year old child, i got annoyed at this point and told him to get on with it as I know my way around a PC and windows) and to open the 'RUN' function (alarm bells should now be ringing), then to enter the acronym for brining up the event viewer, something like 'eventvwr'. Now I know perfectly well what this is, does and contains, so again i played along. He the proceeded to ask me to confirm some of the 'Errors' I was getting, I did, ' Oh on, you have a number of system errors caused by Trojan virus's' which apparently my world class virus software cant remove because it doesn't know it exists, and for a small fee (£50) and allowing him access to control my PC remotely he would rid my PC of all the infected files and errors. Whilst this was going on I was actually Googling his company name 'NERDI' and for event viewer phishing scams, low and behold, i may not be able to find any trace of a company called NERDI but this scam has been running for years, previously in Australia. I asked John what country he was calling from (so that I could suitably insult him before I hung up on him) and the kicker, 'Im based in London'. Well suffice to say that I told him to move away swiftly and procreate with his mothers ass (or something towards that fashion) and hung up on him. Can you believe he called straight back to ask why i had insulted him and that he certainly was not running a scam to either get access to my PCs files or my bank/card details. I offered the same statement about his mum and hung up. Thankfully no further calls have come through.
Be warned, this scam appears to be alive and well and now operating with UK telephone numbers. Do not give them your details. Do not pay for their service. this is a phishing scam that has obviously been sold onto someone new using an Indian based call unit or office.
And finally. Microsoft will not cold call you for any reason what so ever.
The only reason you would receive a call from Microsoft, especially for IT related issues, is because you have requested them to call you through one of their service/maintenance channels.
If you haven’t called them first, they are not from Microsoft.

Thanks for telling us about your experience, which was virtually identical to mine.

As I said above, the company is legitimately registered and based in London, though I can't imagine they will escape the law for much longer. They close down one company then start up another, having fleeced hundreds of people, many of whom are vulnerable and easily frightened.

I'd still encourage people to tell their story to Action Fraud, the government fraud helpline. In my case, they actually took a crime report from me. The more people who do this the sooner these people will be stopped.

Phone scam-my experience was very similar upto the start of the FIX procedure but on this occasion they wanted me to connect to "Crossloop.com", a program to allow remote control of a computer. There is probably nothing wrong with this program as CNET give it 5 stars BUT DON'T ALLOW THIS unless you really trust the other person!!!!

Sorry for the delay in posting the last comment, but I have been away.

I have just had a similar experience. I was contacted by a young lady who told me she represented NERDI and that their server had been receiving hundreds of messages from my machine. I decided to play thick and see where it was leading. I was directed to the event viewer and told to scroll through the application log and look at the all the errors - well there weren't many but I didn't let on and agreed with her that there were a lot.

At this point, I was passed onto her manager who then wanted me to go their web-site. At this point I decided that this was as far I was going to proceed with charade - I told him that he was a liar and a thief and ended the call. I expect they are immune to this relatively mild rebuke but it made me feel better!!

After reading the comments above, It is very gratifying to see that my instincts that this is a scam were correct.

After a lull I have started getting two or three of these calls every day now. Usually I just tell them that they are running a scam and that I have telephone preference service. As you say, it makes you feel better!

I do want to keep urging people to contact http://www.actionfraud.org.uk/ as the name of the company they give does vary.

I received a phone call yesterday 1 Feb 2012 which went along the lines of the calls described above, e.g. Mary Reid's. Even though I was uncomfortable and suspicious from the beginning, I was just gullible enough to let them have control of my PC. In the end, when he asked for £80.99 (a strange price innit?), I discontinued the call and shut my computer down. I deinstalled their "software", but I am still worried they could access my computer. I echo everyone else's advice, do not buy into their scam.

Mark - sorry to take so long to approve your comment above. I think you should be safe if you have uninstalled the software. Their main purpose seems to be to get the money off you, not to spy on your system.

But do make sure you have a good anti-virus and anti-spyware system on your computer. That will pick up any attempts to 'read' your data.

Hi !!!!
My name is Danial Black.
I am the technical Support Manager for Nerd-i.com and this post is in regards to all the comments on this page about my company. First and foremost Nerd-I.com is not a scam or fraudulent company. It is one of the top 15 upcoming website in united kingdom which provides unlimited support to their customers !!!! http://www.killerstartups.com/Web20/nerd-i-com-solve-pc-problems

I dont say Nerd-i.com is the best technical support company but yes spending 89.99 GBP for one year is better than spending 20 GBP for an hour to a local technician.

Nerd-i.com holds more than 2000 satisfied customers and every one of them are getting a call by
our agents in every 15 days to check the performance of their computer which is a addon service which we provide.

A company can only be consider as a scam when they dont provide the service they promised
but if you are a customer of Nerd-i.com, we make sure that whenever you call us in on our Technical support number (020 31299 502) all you issues are solved ,all your queries are answered and all information is provided to you about your computer.

However we work by taking the access of the registered computer through a registered software and we also have a team of highly qualified technicians who work on your computer hence, Nerd-I.com eliminates the situation of waiting for your local technical to come at you place and sort out the problem and i dont believe any local technician works after 10 P.M. What if you have a urgent work,will you wait for the next morning ?

Nerd-i.com goes for the goodwill and respect amongst the people hence we have a clear policy
wherein if at the end of the day we are not able to solve the problem of your computer we provide the refund of the whole amount but as a compensation the services are continued .

Now i dont believe any scam or fraudulent company would provide such services to their customers.

That was it from my side for more information please contact our support at support@nerd-i.com or call us on 020 31299 502.

Regards,
Danial Black
Nerd-i.com

Well, it has taken you a long time to notice the avalanche of complaints against you.

If you are the honest company that you claim you are, why did you use such underhand tactics on the phone to me and many others - trying to pull the wool over our eyes and claiming that there were (non-existent) problems with our PCs?

And how come the Government's anti-fraud department confirmed that your activities were fraudulant?

Your link to KillerStartups proves nothing of the sort. It is a thinly veiled advert for the company.

I suggest that if you want to maintain your personal credibility in the IT industry that you find another job straightaway.

I suggest readers look up this more recent report:
http://www.channelpro.co.uk/advice/6135/unstoppable-tech-support-scam

Nerdi called me this morning (after calling me yesterday and putting the phone down as I wasn't interested and they couldn't tell me how they got my number) and were very persistent. After asking the lady with an Indian accent if they were certified by Microsoft many times without a response (at least she didn't lie to me), a chap with an Indian accent called Betescott tried to get me to turn on my PC. He just went on about how I may destroy my computer and gave up after a while. I'm afraid he was on a loser as the lady had opened up the call by calling me the wrong name anyway.
As for Danial Black, he's the only Danial I know who spells his name that way - unless it's not his name??

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